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Maybe there could be a deep sea trench in the ocean, far off the coast. Inside the trench is a deep chasm, and you need a submarine to reach it's deepest depths. Eventually the chasm opens out into a huge area of inky blackness. You journey further into the seemingly endless depths, only to discover massive structures made out of an unknown material, which look to be the ruins of an ancient civilization. But why was this seemingly advanced and hidden city abandoned? Suddenly you hear noises somewhere in the pitch black darkness behind you... ...unsettling and disturbing noises... You feel like something malevolent is watching you, following and stalking your every movement. Waiting for the right time to strike. To be continued...

nope, i am still not sold and i am truly being open to the idea because i liked 2 and 3... but it's not saint's row anymore... the humor is there, but the game isn't... why am i flying through space and fighting aliens? why are there mech robots and people with super powers? this whole alien concept changed the game completely... it might of been a decent add-on for SR3, but it is not worthy of it's own number in the franchise... still pass... i want to play gangsta shit, not fight aliens... there's enough of those games out there... saints row was the only gangsta game of it's kind, and now that concept is all but lost forever... i mean seriously, where do you go next for the saints? space exploration? planet hopping?? they are walking down a doomed road IMO... visually, it's not the streets anymore... wasn't that what this game was built upon in the first place?

I was just thinking. If the game is set only in Los Santos, which is pretty much confirmed now. Will it be bigger than San Andreas in terms of actual map size? I realize San Andreas covered three cities and surrounding countryside, but everything was shrunk down and the cities were far smaller than any real city. GTA V clearly looks much richer in detail and bigger looking from what we have seen of it so far. But will it actually be bigger than San Andreas, or ever Red Dead?, since Rockstar have mentioned it is the largest and most ambitious game yet in their latest statement. Might as well start discussing it, but don't moan that the game is going to suck because it's not going to be San Andreas, that's not the point of this thread. Personally I hope it is bigger. And i hope to see loads of small country towns sprawled out over the countrysides, full of interesting characters to do side missions for and what not. /edit Here is some of the hard work put in by members on this forum: 'Fitty's Map (Final): DuPz' map (Final): Banana Pudding's map: Los Santos Blueprints: Image from an achievement/trophy icon: Brady Games Map:

i completely agree and i think that there is a good chance that Grove St. will be in the game, i seen it in the graffiti of one of the buildings in Franklins trailer.

It's cool. Another thing I'm looking for is, in multiplayer, when someone talks, their name should pop up on the corner of the screen. When somebody is playing loud music or there's a talking 5 year old in the lobby, I have to go down the list and mute/unmute people one-by-one until I find the person I wanna mute...

Running and sliding across the hood of a car(dukes) would be cool. Dukes of Hazzard style.

Just tolerance, smaller people can't handle it at all, my buddies gf was totally sunken into a sofa of the tiniest hit, whereas he did numerous before he was remotely affected. Same experience here. My bro is 200lbs. Remotely affected. Disregarded the news of the spice deaths in Arizona..... Tried it, m'bro tried it. Moved on. No big deal. In the end, it's a passing thing. Can't replace the real. If anyone wants to get high, they should smoke weed.

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PLEASE NO FREERUNNING! This isn't freakin Assassins Creed.

Parkour is for honkys so if the lead character is a honky it would make sense. Would be a cool feature too but if the lead is a honky im not buying the game cause i hate honkys.

As I've said before, I hate the RDR ranking system. I like IV because everyone gets the same guns and it's a level playing field. Skill over XP crunching.