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Well it basically shows that the city of Los Santos makes up less than a third of the map and that's not including all the interiors and underwater areas.. Im definitely not worried about the size of this map.. I'm fuckin pumped.. cant wait

Obviously the icon is low res so there is some variation: (and I made up the lower edge and part of the lower-right area since the blueprints didn't show them)

/\ left ginge off? I like to think you aussie QDs need as much help as you can get! behold, the QDs of south county!!!

What I want from police in V: -The same base system for escaping a wanted level as IV, with the circle that you have to evade. -You are only arrested on 1 star. 2 stars will give police ability to kill, but will still attempt to arrest you unless you resist. 3 stars and above is kill first, with the motivation to kill rising as the wanted level does. -After receiving a 1-2 star wanted level, you can evade it with no further consequences. -A 3 star wanted level means you have a bounty out on you for 24 hours if you evade the police. -A 4 star wanted level results in a 48 hour bounty if you escape the wanted level. -A 5 star wanted level results in a 72 hour bounty if you evade the law enforcement. -With a bounty, your original wanted level will be restored in full if caught committing any crime or seen by police in the same car you were caught in unless the plates were changed. Bounty rules never change, but length of bounty does. Any bounty is removed after being arrested or killed. Every crime you commit with a bounty plus the price for the original crime (price changes with the crime severity) is what you pay to bribe the police, and bribing is added on top of healthcare when killed with a wanted level or with a bounty. The bounty time is restored when receiving a wanted level with a bounty. -There needs to be a living witness to get a wanted level, and that witness has to call 911. Not all witnesses will call the police. Other details for each wanted level: -1 star- Police cars only. For pointing guns at citizens and traffic violations -2 star- Police cars only. For murder of citizens, stealing cars, pointing guns at law enforcement, blowing up vehicles, store and vehicle robberies. -3 star- Police cars, vans and helicopters. Murder of law enforcement, mass destruction, double digit citizen deaths, high end major heists. -4 star- Police cars, vans, helicopters, FBI trucks and cars. Mass murder of citizens, double digit murder of law enforcement. -5 star- 4 star vehicles plus military. Mass murder of police and citizens, general acts of terrorism.

Dear anybody who thinks just the size matters: Play Just Cause 2, your outlook will be different.

That shark one is a little sketchy to me. If a shark jumps out of the water right in front of me while I'm on a boat I'll probably shit a brick.

But some of the pick-ups or hidden package-type items may be a little spoilerish to some.

Am I the only one comparing the achievement icon to our fan maps? That was part of my investigation if it was real or not.

*Doesn't click* Even achievement lists have spoilers on them. . . I'd rather not know. Good find though.

Right. Well, Rockstar is not run by and does not employ bitches, thus, a school.I'm insulted by the very notion of a school being off-limits solely because there was a shooting at one.

^ I like that idea but I've been wanting a 1 star wanted level to be less aggressive for a while now.. maybe something like midnight club, if you get caught committing a minor crime (damage to property, fighting, reckless driving...) they will simply pull you over and possibly fine you. In that instance you could pay the fine, or speed off and have a second star added to your wanted level. If on foot, the police may just try and resolve the situation, once again there will be the possibility of a fine and you have the same decision to make as before; pay or run.. tt I also hated how trigger happy the police get.. If you resisted arrest in IV, they would start emptying their clips into you when in reality they would continue the pursuit to arrest you. It'd be nice in V if the authorities only fire their weapons at you if you begin firing first (much like IRL).. with the exception of you using a vehicle as a weapon

I was thinking the same thing.

I would LOVE an HD version of San Fierro.

What San Fierro could potentially look like in GTA Online ~ Not my pics...

We're also completely forgetting the sea which is part of the map...

There will be more than empty space. They even said that e erh inch of the map was carefully structured by multiple artists to ensure nothing looks boing or empty. So expect a couple of small towns/villages. I'll update the map soon with new locations we found on the website.

Sorry, yeah it shows that LS it only approximately 1/5 of the map in the X & Y axis, that doesn't include the Z axis though.

That's a good visualisation of the scale if you ask me. LS takes up less than 1/5 of the map. Plenty of terrain to explore.

You've just made me think of stalking. I'm sure it happens already in MP but to what degree I don't know. If savvy players are going to be aware that you can safeguard your cash by keeping it in the bank they'll carry only what they need between missions/heists/games which leads to the possibility of walking down the street with people following you either by car or on foot and having to watch over your shoulder for a potential robbery/assault.

Just because it's a spaceship doesnt mean it needs to be hated on, or compared to saints row. GTA had strange theories about UFO's waaay before SR got all silly and stupid. I think it would be quite normal in the GTA universe considering we already had Jetpacks, and everything named after a sex position. GTA was never that realistic anyway...

You couldn't take it past the height ceiling in SR, either. That didn't make it any less laughable and unrealistic. Then just ignore it, plain and simple. The inclusion would not hurt anyone or make the game worse. It seems like something that would entertain me for a short period of time, which would mean it served it's purpose.

since i've seen the list i might as well comment on it ... Kifflom! Complete your path to enlightment... or not. ...sounds like there will still be storyline choices again? i thought i recall them saying there weren't any in V... i could see the UFO parts as collectibles, as well as the waste management trophy... remember this part of the website?? it's probably another collectible...

Why? There is a reason that they are secret. The reward is a spacesuit and the ability to fly it like you said, then turn on weazel news and see local residents get interviewed and they talk about seeing aliens and ufo'sLmao haha that'd be great actually I couldn't wait to take Trevor and walk around with underwear and a space helmet on and see how everyone reacts. Hours of entertainment righ there.

That actually looks big to me.

"Leonora Johnson" CJ's mother was named Beverly Johnson, so it's definitely not her. Although the last name could just be an easter egg.

i shaved my beard just for that pic... it grew back 2 hours later...

I'll be on tonight at 9:30pm Central, TBoGT freeroam to start out. join in!

Already? fuck. I'm out.

If a group of our crew gets thrown into a heist or a robbery with some randoms, and they're douche bags, the leader should chuck them a doller for good will, but keep all the rest to split with the crew. Teach them a lesson for messing around. < This is something i will do at some point in my time online! Also, forced friendship between 16 players isn't going to happen. Like RDR you will either join forces or gang up on the fool... It always happens. It will be fun as fuck.

Maybe one day the Browns will win. (insert "okay" face)

I didn't read more than 10, but from what i read, i wish i hadn't seen them. Buying certain things, and collecting things are spoilers in my books.

really? some of those tied into the story, and quite a few were collectible items... i guess i have a very different opinion on what i consider to be a spoiler... it was full of them IMO...

See? Explosions.

well passive mode is great for the idot trolls along with the reporting system. soon be co-op lobbies and then the trolls in their troll lobbies. I'll b stickin to private lobbies. too many fuckheads

Map shape on the sightseer one..

Well, Some are unexpected. Fucking space ship?? Hmmm.

Yes. It could be done in IV by setting the number of private slots to Max when you set up a game. I'm sure it'll be possible in V as well.

As the person with the sniper rifle, I will have you know that the 8 year olds are the ones with RPGs or similar explosive weapons. Kiddies love explosions. I also wonder if they will fix the issue that someone can still harm you with explosions in the "friendly" matches (getting thrown and the fall loses health).

Just started mapping some of the screenshots, i may have a last ditch attempt at finishing my map... i just want to play it now though, but we'll see.

Well it does look like a combination of the Chevrolet Corvette C1 & The C3... http://youtu.be/P9HVWMQdbmA?t=7m7s ^^^^^^^WATCH^^^^^^^

Well, I got what I wanted. AND MORE!

*off-topic* Deliberately ruining his property does not constitute misfortune.

Yerr wott? Prepare for my coming article on beyondbald.com

I really only play MP for about an hour or two, after that it gets boring..

Whoa, the Israeli in me is gettin' all kinds of funky. I'm just gonna back on outta here.

This belongs here my friend: http://www.igta5.com/forums/forum/24-multiplayer-events/ Good luck with your crew

K9's, tasers, riot gear, tyre punctures, truncheons/knight sticks, CS gas They should actually try and engage in some sort of combat, it would be brilliant if when they are in groups they try to hold you down while they arrest, it would be like an episode of cops xD