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True. I'm saying that Take-Two (fuck whatever abbreviation I falsely used) expects it come out by March 2013. It could be delayed. Take-Two is notorious for allowing that to happen to so many of its games.

Now wind your fucking neck in and listen to the people who know how things go down around here. You ostrich-like cunt. lol you've got to be kidding me. It is bonafide illegal for a company to tell its shareholders that they expect to make $700 million when they really don't. That is fucking fraud. If they were mistaken, that's different, and that's exactly what your press release is referring to. Sony expected profits in its game division in 2011, but experienced losses because of the unforeseen PSN hack. In fact, it just happened in the case of Facebook. http://www.reuters.c...E84M0RK20120523 You cannot lie about revenue to your shareholders. Dumbass. I think you're taking this way off-topic. Expecting to make a profit is not the same as guaranteeing to make a profit. But anyway, you think investors will be suing T2 if GTA V doesn't come out by March 2013 then? If it comes to light that 2K never intended to make that much money, then yes, the shareholders will sue. This barely ever happens because corporations aren't that stupid; it's not entirely unheard of, as the case of Facebook going public less than a couple of weeks ago. There really isn't any title or combination of titles that can make $700 million. That's over 13 million copies sold. Agent can't do that; it's a new IP, and it's an exclusive (no PS3 game has sold even half the amount 2K is claiming it will make). In fact, historically, the only titles that have been consistently able to sell that much are GTA and Call of Duty (being multiplatform also helps). If GTA V gets delayed internally, that's another thing. But if it's leaked that GTA V was never expected to be ready by March 2013, then that is grounds for the shareholders to sue (assuming they don't make $700 million from some other source, which, you have to admit at this point, can't happen without GTA V). That would be fraud (as I've tried to explain to you for the umpteenth time) because it's shallowly bolstering your own stock; you aren't allowed to create bubbles, for obvious reasons. So I go back to my original point. Either you think 2K is lying, which is really fucking illegal, or 2K expects GTA V to come out before the end of the fiscal year.

Now wind your fucking neck in and listen to the people who know how things go down around here. You ostrich-like cunt. lol you've got to be kidding me. It is bonafide illegal for a company to tell its shareholders that they expect to make $700 million when they really don't. That is fucking fraud. If they were mistaken, that's different, and that's exactly what your press release is referring to. Sony expected profits in its game division in 2011, but experienced losses because of the unforeseen PSN hack. In fact, it just happened in the case of Facebook. http://www.reuters.c...E84M0RK20120523 You cannot lie about revenue to your shareholders. Dumbass.

No, the evidence here is overwhelming. Analysts don't pull stuff out of their ass. There is no way Take-Two could see it's shares jump $2.00 without GTA V. So yes, Take-Two did very much imply that GTA V is coming out before March 2013. Maybe I missed the bit where they implied it was coming before March 2013. Could you listen to the whole conference call then tell me at which point I should listen to it again. Thank you. Q4 2012 Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Earnings Conference Call Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:30 p.m. ET Webcast Presentation Click here for webcast Why is logic so difficult for you? There is not a single thing Take-Two could do to get that much revenue barring the release of GTA V. So either Take-Two is lying, which is fraud, or GTA V is coming out before March 2013. Pick one. I don't want to pick one. I want to know which part you think they're implying 'before March 2013'. Please explain for the audience. Take-Two laid out their expected earnings for the fiscal year. This is everything between now and March 2013. That is the definition of a fiscal year. In these earnings is a whopping $700 million, the source of this revenue undisclosed, something that only big ass games like Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto can ever hope to achieve. It can't be from multiple unannounced games either (Take-Two revealed the expected earnings for their big games, like Bioshock) because they would just cannibalize each other. So either Take-Two has an unannounced big title or combination of titles capable of earning them at least $700 million between now and March 2013 (and if you can think of one, then maybe you can enlighten us), they expect Grand Theft Auto V to release between now and March 2013, or they're lying. If the latter turns out to be true, then the shareholders will sue them to high heaven. I shouldn't have to explain this to you. Read what is being said before you offhandedly dismiss anything that isn't an official corporate announcement. You come off as awfully flippant and ignorant. So if March 2013 comes and GTA V hasn't been released it means they lied and the shareholders will sue? Also, I'm sorry if I come off as 'awfully flippant and ignorant' it's just that I don't understand anything when it comes to Rockstar Games or Take-Two Interactive. I feel blessed that you're a member here. Maybe I should ask my mate from the internet, he works for Take-Two. Also, I made the prediction of March 2013 before any analysts did. Does that make me a reliable source? Well, if March 2013 comes around and they haven't made the money they claimed they will and they don't have a good excuse as to why they didn't, then yes, the shareholders will sue. Corporations legally cannot lie about future profits. That is fraud. And if you came up with the March 2013 date without the slightest bit of evidence for it, then it would be baseless. But there is much evidence that GTA V will be released before the end of this fiscal year. It would be virtually impossible for Take-Two to make that amount of money without it. Considering they refuse to divulge exactly where this $700 million will come from... well, you do the math. Understand at least a minimum before commenting.

Uh, the commercial airline and the crop duster?

Say somehow, it is real? Then, that's only the number of vehicles confirmed so far. If you watch the trailer, 3 planes and a huge blimp appear in it... *4 planes Four different planes? Could you point them out for us please? During the windmill scene, there's a seaplane that can be seen briefly. Very easy to miss.

No, the evidence here is overwhelming. Analysts don't pull stuff out of their ass. There is no way Take-Two could see it's shares jump $2.00 without GTA V. So yes, Take-Two did very much imply that GTA V is coming out before March 2013. Maybe I missed the bit where they implied it was coming before March 2013. Could you listen to the whole conference call then tell me at which point I should listen to it again. Thank you. Q4 2012 Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Earnings Conference Call Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:30 p.m. ET Webcast Presentation Click here for webcast Why is logic so difficult for you? There is not a single thing Take-Two could do to get that much revenue barring the release of GTA V. So either Take-Two is lying, which is fraud, or GTA V is coming out before March 2013. Pick one. I don't want to pick one. I want to know which part you think they're implying 'before March 2013'. Please explain for the audience. Take-Two laid out their expected earnings for the fiscal year. This is everything between now and March 2013. That is the definition of a fiscal year. In these earnings is a whopping $700 million, the source of this revenue undisclosed, something that only big ass games like Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto can ever hope to achieve. It can't be from multiple unannounced games either (Take-Two revealed the expected earnings for their big games, like Bioshock) because they would just cannibalize each other. So either Take-Two has an unannounced big title or combination of titles capable of earning them at least $700 million between now and March 2013 (and if you can think of one, then maybe you can enlighten us), they expect Grand Theft Auto V to release between now and March 2013, or they're lying. If the latter turns out to be true, then the shareholders will sue them to high heaven. I shouldn't have to explain this to you. Read what is being said before you offhandedly dismiss anything that isn't an official corporate announcement. You come off as awfully flippant and ignorant.

Say somehow, it is real? Then, that's only the number of vehicles confirmed so far. If you watch the trailer, 3 planes and a huge blimp appear in it... *4 planes

No, the evidence here is overwhelming. Analysts don't pull stuff out of their ass. There is no way Take-Two could see it's shares jump $2.00 without GTA V. So yes, Take-Two did very much imply that GTA V is coming out before March 2013. Maybe I missed the bit where they implied it was coming before March 2013. Could you listen to the whole conference call then tell me at which point I should listen to it again. Thank you. Q4 2012 Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Earnings Conference Call Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:30 p.m. ET Webcast Presentation Click here for webcast Why is logic so difficult for you? There is not a single thing Take-Two could do to get that much revenue barring the release of GTA V. So either Take-Two is lying, which is fraud, or GTA V is coming out before March 2013. Pick one.

No, the evidence here is overwhelming. Analysts don't pull stuff out of their ass. There is no way Take-Two could see it's shares jump $2.00 without GTA V. So yes, Take-Two did very much imply that GTA V is coming out before March 2013.

Really highlights how far we've come graphically.

Not happening. Though Take-Two's financial projections are unrealistically optimistic without the game coming out between now and March 2013, barring an improbable multitude of unannounced games.

Well today's May 24th. Happy birthday Sam Houser.

I hadn't considered that. With what little we know, however, I don't think it likely that they would include GTA vehicles in it.

I never said that I was absolutely convinced. It could be for a different future GTA game, or scrapped GTA cars for a past game. I only said that the circumstantial evidence points in the direction that this is a partial list for vehicles that will appear in GTA V or vehicles that were thought to appear in GTA V. I base this assertion primarily on the vehicles relating to snow, because as far as I know snow hasn't appeared in a past GTA game, at least enough to warrant a vehicle for it. I say that this is probably a rough draft of a partial list of vehicles for GTA V. On its own, this isn't very illuminating. But it does reveal some interesting things, like the aforementioned snow and cable cars.