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People like this need to be put up against a wall and shot. They lack so many brain cells that they dont even deserve to live! Gah fuck how can someone be so damn ignorent....

I know this is a GTA V shit list but I thought this video needed to be addressed on how shitty it is!

nothing wrong with that. if youre a hardcore san andreas fan, you had good reason to be pissed off when gta iv came out.

i thought iv sucked but yeah i wouldnt post something like this. although i agree with most of it, i would present the points in a reasonable manner.

If you thought IV sucked. Just stop playing the GTA'S because you arn't gonna like them from here on out.

no, the series can still redeem itself. so long as rockstar stop implementing stupid things like bowling with roman and only make totally awesome things.

What do you mean "the series can redeem itself" the series is better then ever. what do you want GTA to become another Saints Row? Im getting tired of you San Andreas fanboys. All SA had was a bigger map and more things to do. GTA IV had better graphics, physics, story, Shooting and COVER SYSTEM. San Andreas was the third game for the last generation of consoles so they had experiance with it. GTA IV was Rockstars first attempt with the next gen consoles besides table tennis. So dont be a tard and use your brain. GTA IV did not suck and if you think it did you are not old enough to play GTA.

i guess you werent even born when san andreas came out. prefering a classic over a newer game is not something an antivet would say. every part of gta iv other than graphics was heavily downgraded from san andreas. dont say the series is better than ever.

"more things to do" is the biggest understatment ever.

im not going to waste forum space as i could make a massive indepth comparrason. you are blinded by IVs graphics.

No I am not blinded by IV's graphics. All the gameeplay aspects besides melee combat were greatly improved in IV. San Andreas is a great game. A fantasstic game but for me it's not better then IV and im sure alot of people here will agree with me.

everything other than melee?

planes, helis, trains (drivable and can be derailed), towing, trucks and trailers (also airport vehicles including mobile stairs), operating cranes to lift things or wrecking balls, bikes, gaining muscle, tattoos, clothes, vehicle customization, 37 safehouses, businesses, tanks, tons of weapons, dual weiding weapons, parachute, thermo goggles, casinos (blackjack, roulette, slots and more), betting shops, gang wars and taking over territory.

some of these things were heavily downgraded but most were removed entirely. true IV has things that SA didnt have but nothing too special and nothing to make up flying a huge cargo plane over a military base trying to avoid getting shot down and every other things SA had.

all you can do in IV is story missions and go bowling with roman (how fun).

Joe King maybe you need to watch this video..... then you will understand what Rockstar is trying to straight from the man himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-O8XZHvvZI

hes just talking about how far the new consoles can go. maybe you embedded the wrong video? lol

even if he did have a point about IV being better than SA, sam houser is the executive producer right? executive producers have nothing to do with development or any creative process.

and besides, the artist doesnt decide if their work is good. its the people that buy into that art who decide.

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Okay first off there wern't planes because the map wasn't big enough to use them. There were "helis' what the hell are you talking about. Trains: There was a subway. They dont use trains is New york tard. Who the fuck cares about "towing trucks and trailers". Operating cranes to lift things; Your serieusly telling me you would use a crane to lift things in a video game. now i can see if it was for a mission but just for fun? that would be a waste of space. Bikes: They dont use bikes in New York. Imagine trying to use a bike in Algonquin..... Gaining muscle: i always thought of that bieng a little dumb. And besides IV was alot more about haracter developmest with Niko thats why there wasnt' as much customization. Clothes: are you saying Niko ran around naked? 37 safehouses; again the map wasn't big enough and it wasn't needed anyway. And besides most of the safehouses in san andreas were just copy and paste interiors. Tanks: there was a APC in TBOGT.... parachute; there was a parachute in TBOGT too. You need to get your facts down retard. casinos: wtf??? Its fuckin NEW YORK!!!! And Gang wars; you must not have played TLAD......

You my friend are officially the village idiot. Congrats.

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Okay first off there wern't planes because the map wasn't big enough to use them. There were "helis' what the hell are you talking about. Trains: There was a subway. They dont use trains is New york tard. Who the fuck cares about "towing trucks and trailers". Operating cranes to lift things; Your serieusly telling me you would use a crane to lift things in a video game. now i can see if it was for a mission but just for fun? that would be a waste of space. Bikes: They dont use bikes in New York. Imagine trying to use a bike in Algonquin..... Gaining muscle: i always thought of that bieng a little dumb. And besides IV was alot more about haracter developmest with Niko thats why there wasnt' as much customization. Clothes: are you saying Niko ran around naked? 37 safehouses; again the map wasn't big enough and it wasn't needed anyway. And besides most of the safehouses in san andreas were just copy and paste interiors. Tanks: there was a APC in TBOGT.... parachute; there was a parachute in TBOGT too. You need to get your facts down retard. casinos: wtf??? Its fuckin NEW YORK!!!! And Gang wars; you must not have played TLAD......

You my friend are officially the village idiot. Congrats.

Actually, they do use bicycles in New York City, it's a quick, cheap, and easy form of transportation. Also there is a difference between a Main Battle Tank and an Armored Personnel Carrier. There are trains that go through New York but it's the suburbs and wouldn't have mattered because it didn't fit into the gamestyle of IV. The parachute was added in late when it could've been in at the beginning. Also the APC was added late so it wasn't in GTA IV. It was in the DLC for it. Also there was only a parachute in TBoGT.

Also you're flame really sucked. I didn't read the whole bitch fight just the last two posts. Either way this is the Shit list thread.

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Trains: There was a subway. They dont use trains is New york tard.

I could pick the shit out of this but that's a whole 'nother discussion. Subways are trains anyway.

Who the fuck cares about "towing trucks and trailers".

<-- jizzed pants when tractor trailers were shown.

Bikes: They dont use bikes in New York.

Dude, seriously? They haven't added bike lanes all over the place for nothing. That's in the running for "most stupid post of the year". Even saying "there's no motorcycles in NYC" or "there's no tractor trailers in NYC" would have been slightly smarter (but still completely wrong for either).

You need to get your facts down retard. casinos: wtf??? Its fuckin NEW YORK!!!!

Indeedy.

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Trains: There was a subway. They dont use trains is New york tard.

I could pick the shit out of this but that's a whole 'nother discussion. Subways are trains anyway.

Who the fuck cares about "towing trucks and trailers".

<-- jizzed pants when tractor trailers were shown.

Bikes: They dont use bikes in New York.

Dude, seriously? They haven't added bike lanes all over the place for nothing. That's in the running for "most stupid post of the year". Even saying "there's no motorcycles in NYC" or "there's no tractor trailers in NYC" would have been slightly smarter (but still completely wrong for either).

You need to get your facts down retard. casinos: wtf??? Its fuckin NEW YORK!!!!

Indeedy.

I figured you'd pitch in that's why I left plenty for you to say. Isn't it only at Midnight hours when Semi's take over NYC from Washington(?) Bridge?

Also there is a Casino in Alderney but it's abandoned.

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Why are you on my nuts. talk about the retard that said helicopters wern't in GTA IV........

And he also saod that Sam Houser has nothing to do with the development or the creative process..... he should banned for just saying that...

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You can't counter stupid with more stupid. stuff no work dat way.

Granted i dont know that much about New York. Now i know that for future referance. Thank you. But this is a GTA forum. Not a New York Forum.

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Most of my points were not stupid..... Just the Bike one and granted i made a mistake. But you jump all in my nuts on it. Now if it was something stupid like "guyz tey no helis in GTA IV" then its okay because this is a GTA forum.

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Most of my points were not stupid..... Just the Bike one and granted i made a mistake. But you jump all in my nuts on it. Now if it was something stupid like "guyz tey no helis in GTA IV" then its okay because this is a GTA forum.

A majority of people would like to see tractor trailers and towtrucks. Also nobody jumped on your "nuts".

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Most of my points were not stupid..... Just the Bike one and granted i made a mistake. But you jump all in my nuts on it. Now if it was something stupid like "guyz tey no helis in GTA IV" then its okay because this is a GTA forum.

A majority of people would like to see tractor trailers and towtrucks. Also nobody jumped on your "nuts".

Well personal opinion. i really don't care. But wouldn't mind if they were in the game. i was just trying to show him how stupid some of his points were. ESPECIALLY that Sam Houser one......

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Okay first off there wern't planes because the map wasn't big enough to use them. There were "helis' what the hell are you talking about. Trains: There was a subway. They dont use trains is New york tard. Who the fuck cares about "towing trucks and trailers". Operating cranes to lift things; Your serieusly telling me you would use a crane to lift things in a video game. now i can see if it was for a mission but just for fun? that would be a waste of space. Bikes: They dont use bikes in New York. Imagine trying to use a bike in Algonquin..... Gaining muscle: i always thought of that bieng a little dumb. And besides IV was alot more about haracter developmest with Niko thats why there wasnt' as much customization. Clothes: are you saying Niko ran around naked? 37 safehouses; again the map wasn't big enough and it wasn't needed anyway. And besides most of the safehouses in san andreas were just copy and paste interiors. Tanks: there was a APC in TBOGT.... parachute; there was a parachute in TBOGT too. You need to get your facts down retard. casinos: wtf??? Its fuckin NEW YORK!!!! And Gang wars; you must not have played TLAD......

You my friend are officially the village idiot. Congrats.

there were only 4 helis in gta iv and 3 of them were the same model. nothing compared to what was in SA.

in SA you can drive the trains not just ride as passenger.

cranes are used for several side missions including lifting cars onto the boat for exporting. they can also be used outside of missions, there are ones to lift cars or there are wrecking balls too.

SA had at least 6 times the amount of clothing as in IV.

Vice City had a smaller map than IV and had 17 safehouses. IV had only 5 which were: shithole apartment, shithole apartment, shithole apartment, penthouse, penthouse. boring.

APC is nothing like the tank in SA, besides we arent talking about TBOGT.

cards games and gambling: how does roman get into debt? please remind me about that :)

i will never understand people like you. i will never understand why you people think less content makes a better game so long as graphics are good.

also i hate it when you people bring story into it. story is a matter of opinion. for me about 80% of missions in IV were simply "go here, kill this guy (and bodyguards)". so repetative.

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There's no hours as far as I'm aware. They pay higher tolls so PANYNJ wants the money. Realistically it's easier for delivery trucks to get around at night but I see plenty during the day (on tight streets too).

I worked at a trucking company and you're right about that.

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You can't counter stupid with more stupid. stuff no work dat way.

i never said anything stupid. that guy said everything but melee was improved, so i made a list of things other than melee that were downgraded or removed.

all was fact.

people, this is the shit list forum. the one forum where we can say whatever we want :D

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people, this is the shit list forum. the one forum where we can say whatever we want :D

The forum you're referring to is actually called 'The Asylum'.

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God this topic is hilarious. From no bikes in nyc to this topic being the asylum equivalent, this topic has antiwin all over it.

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But, with its creator thankfully gone, this topic has undergone a change. With every moronic noob post made, the noobs become honorary entries on the shit list. Sure, I don't add them to it, because fuck those guys, but, they're there.

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