TheClip 82 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 I like Akon..... It seems you are confused, this is a hip hop thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bronson 702 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 I like Akon..... It seems you are confused, this is a hip hop thread Seems you are confused. Akon is a 'Hip-Hop and R&B" artist. Hip Hop isnt just rap my friend..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheClip 82 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 I like Akon..... It seems you are confused, this is a hip hop thread Seems you are confused. Akon is a 'Hip-Hop and R&B" artist. Hip Hop isnt just rap my friend..... I mean Akon is a garbage excuse for hip-hop, just like Lil Wayne or Drake. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayge 689 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 Akon is hardly Hip-Hop, he's definitely more of an R&B artist. Anyone who's into hip-hop would tell you he's not hip-hop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViceMan 1380 Report post Posted September 22, 2012 I have always used the term "hip-hop" to refer to the talentless wannabes that are in it purely for the money. I make sure I tell people I listen to rap and not hip-hop. However, I know that's not the actual definition of the term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron 15 Report post Posted September 23, 2012 AIN'T NUTIN' BUT A G THANG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayge 689 Report post Posted September 23, 2012 I have always used the term "hip-hop" to refer to the talentless wannabes that are in it purely for the money. I make sure I tell people I listen to rap and not hip-hop. However, I know that's not the actual definition of the term. Technically you're right. "Hip-Hop" is was a culture created in the Bronx in like, the 70's featuring dance, graffiti, DJing and rapping. All together these things combined to create what was then known as hip-hop. Now it's definitely changed, at least in the mainstream aspect of it, devolving into proud americans who all use the same shitty generic beats, shitty lyrics but make it catchy to infect the minds of 13 year old, OBEY wearing, swag obsessed motherfuckers, to signify "artists" if they must be called so, such as Drake, Lil Wayne Nicki Minaj etc....I don't really refer to it as rap though because if I tell people I listen to rap, they immediately think it's those people I mentioned earlier, because to them there is no other form of rap, sadly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bronson 702 Report post Posted September 23, 2012 The Ying Yang Twins. This was my song back in the day... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ostrich Boy 59 Report post Posted September 23, 2012 That's why I think the beastie boys are so great. They were never fully in it for the money, and they didn't care what other people thought. Those guys just went out and had more fun than any other group or artist ever. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayge 689 Report post Posted September 23, 2012 The Ying Yang Twins. This was my song back in the day... What year was "the day"? 2002? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViceMan 1380 Report post Posted September 23, 2012 I have always used the term "hip-hop" to refer to the talentless wannabes that are in it purely for the money. I make sure I tell people I listen to rap and not hip-hop. However, I know that's not the actual definition of the term. Technically you're right. "Hip-Hop" is was a culture created in the Bronx in like, the 70's featuring dance, graffiti, DJing and rapping. All together these things combined to create what was then known as hip-hop. Now it's definitely changed, at least in the mainstream aspect of it, devolving into proud americans who all use the same shitty generic beats, shitty lyrics but make it catchy to infect the minds of 13 year old, OBEY wearing, swag obsessed motherfuckers, to signify "artists" if they must be called so, such as Drake, Lil Wayne Nicki Minaj etc....I don't really refer to it as rap though because if I tell people I listen to rap, they immediately think it's those people I mentioned earlier, because to them there is no other form of rap, sadly. Yeah I knew that was the original definition of hip-hop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackSox9 448 Report post Posted September 23, 2012 There is a general rule I follow to whether a song is in the hip hop genre or not. If it has mostly rap and i mean good rap, not the half assed shit you see in R&B songs with Akon and all the little QDs you see today. And only a little bit of singing maybe in the background mixed with the music or in the main chorus, that is Hip Hop. If it has any Male/Female Pop or R&B artist singing more than the Hip Hop artist is rapping, than the song is probably one of the many mainstream Pop/R&B pieces of shit which disguises itself as Modern Hip Hop. And all of this so-called Hip Hop is there to cater to little kids, and all the teenage girls who don't want to be called a bitch or a hoe and wouldn't know a good song if it took a massive chunk out of their ass. I haven't heard proper Hip Hop in Australia for years. It's like they've banned it on all TV and Radio Stations here. You have to search the internet using music search engines and sift through all the shit to find any decent music these days and alot of it isn't Main Stream it's Underground. All I need is a basic beat and a great rhyme and I'm usually happy, although the better songs with all the elements working together ( great rhyme, phat beat, and tight tune all blending seamlessly ) are harder to find. I suggest listening to these: - Army of the Pharohs ~ Cookin Keys - Big L ( Feat Fat Joe ) ~ The Enemy - Dead Prez ~ Hip Hop - AZ ~ The Format - Luniz ~ I Got 5 On It - Gangstarr and Inspecta Deck ~ Above The Clouds - NAS ~ New York State Of Mind - Royce Da 5'9 ( Feat DJ Premier ) ~ BOOM - Zion I ~ Spinnin - Dilated Peoples ~ Worst Comes To Worst - Jedi Mind Tricks ~ Violent By Design - Non Phixion ~ Exisitence - Immortal Technique ~ Dancing With The Devil I could give you a tonne more but I will give you these, just a few of my favourite tracks. This stuff is Real Hip Hop, with proper lyrics which make you think or at least paint a detailed picture, they also have great original beats ( Especially any songs Featuring DJ Premiere ). All I can say is if you don't like these than you don't like Hip Hop. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 350 Report post Posted September 23, 2012 Andre 3000, fuckin' GOAT flow right there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayge 689 Report post Posted September 24, 2012 This stuff is Real Hip Hop, with proper lyrics which make you think or at least paint a detailed picture, they also have great original beats ( Especially any songs Featuring DJ Premiere ). DJ Premier and Pete Rock are definitely my two favorite producers, their beats are so fucking good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil Eazy-E 26 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 -Eazy-E -BG Knoccout -Gangsta Dresta -Deezer D -Ice Cube -Warren G -Spice 1 -Celly Cel -Young Ed -Lil Half Dead -Bone Thugs n Harmony -Tupac (Dear Mama, Me Against The World, Shorty Wanna Be A Thug) -Crooked I Gang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViceMan 1380 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 I take it you have a fondness for early 90's west coast artists then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil Eazy-E 26 Report post Posted September 26, 2012 I take it you have a fondness for early 90's west coast artists then. You got that right...and oh yeah, MC Eiht too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil Eazy-E 26 Report post Posted September 27, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-MCdcwbbp4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayge 689 Report post Posted September 29, 2012 When I first started listening to early hip-hop, I was also a huge fan of only West Coast, G Funk era artists, largely because of San Andreas. But as time passed I discovered more East Coast artists that were better or equally as good: Nas Kool G Rap Rakim Guru KRS One Big Daddy Kane Black Thought AZ Fat Joe Wu Tang CL Smooth ATCQ Masta Ace Lords Of The Underground Mobb Deep and a few more (all in the 90s of course, some of them are complete shit now *coughmobbdeepfatjoecough* And also Geto Boys, particularly Scarface from the South. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GunSmoke 8 Report post Posted April 20, 2013 This the stuff I listen to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayge 689 Report post Posted April 21, 2013 This is one of my favourite songs which is actually still extremely relevant in today's modern rap scene. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackSox9 448 Report post Posted April 21, 2013 What happened to all the great rappers like L. There's nothing but shit these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayge 689 Report post Posted April 21, 2013 What happened to all the great rappers like L. There's nothing but shit these days. *generic wannabe semi-intellectual response* There are loads, they're just all underground. You ignorant bastard! But seriously I agree. It's not just the lyrics, but also the beats and the feeling. Most of it is just computerized and merged with techno to create the beats (which I hate). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayge 689 Report post Posted April 22, 2013 Fucking insane skill in that video. Don't know if it was really a freestyle, but regardless the flow is still really good. ESPECIALLY Kurupt at 4:00. His flow is one of the best I've ever heard, but he never really tried to make it big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godfather 132 Report post Posted April 22, 2013 None of you like Big Pun? I loved Pun. But yes, Nas, Big L, Ice Cube, and Biggie are my absolute favorites. I think 2pac is a little (just a little) overrated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites