DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 5, 2018 If the pointy rock is the 'Balsam Rise, then the river runs around it then back towards the east. So that means, the Beaver Hollow Hideout/Camp should be visible in one of these two shots. Can we establish which camp it is from the gameplay footage? Is there any camp scenes we've seen with a river running beside it? Nice idea about the Irish character, could be interesting if they introduced some McReary's into RDR as well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViceMan 1380 Report post Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, DuPz0r said: Nice idea about the Irish character, could be interesting if they introduced some McReary's into RDR as well! Er, I was thinking more of Irish, y'know Irish the Irish guy from that Red Dead Redemption game. Perhaps we'll see him before he was a drunk bum, maybe he has family there. Irish family. Edited September 5, 2018 by ViceMan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 5, 2018 Oh shit yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreeFitty 2631 Report post Posted September 5, 2018 I think Beaver Hollow is right where you put the text in the bottom shot since there seems to be an abundance of dirt/trails right there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreeFitty 2631 Report post Posted September 5, 2018 ..... so Big Valley is part of West Elizabeth??? I guess it would make sense since WE was so small they just tacked on some land to it. https://twitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1037460373216092161 Revamping my state guess: "Ambarino" is Spanish for "amber" btw. If that means anything. edit: and now I'm looking at the way the wanted poster doesn't specifiy that GRIZZLIES is a separate state. It only mentions West Elizabeth after BIG VALLEY... hmmm.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 6, 2018 Hmm yeah, the way they worded that feels like the Grizzlies are in WE. But would it sound right if they said: 'Last seen heading North into the GRIZZLIES, New Hanover, from BIG VALLEY, West Elizabeth.' Sounds like a bit too much information for one sentence, but it could be either/or... Think we'll see a new Trailer this coming week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViceMan 1380 Report post Posted September 6, 2018 Odd that they used the Pinkerton name, being as famous as it is. R* normally make up a similar name. Hoping for a new gameplay vid this week yes. Need to see some different areas of the map. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreeFitty 2631 Report post Posted September 7, 2018 I don't know why I never bothered to look at the radar in the final dead-eye/gunfight scene from the gamplay trailer. Updated Valentine: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViceMan 1380 Report post Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Bit out of date but has this been mentioned yet? Quote Elsewhere, the Del Lobos Gang has taken over a hacienda - clear this gang’s hideout and rob their stash for a lucrative take. Del Lobos/The Wolves could just be a generic gang name but there is of course Del Lobo rock in New Austin, perhaps more evidence of it appearing. Actually wasn't there an old ruined house by Del Lobo rock in Redemption, could've been the same one. Edited September 7, 2018 by ViceMan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 9, 2018 Pretty certain we're seeing a reverse shot of the rock shot here. Which then places that image around about here, which looks like that purple rail camp location... I could be wrong. It could be further around the side of the blue hill, towards Emerald, but it's hard to tell, as you can see The Tar & Coal Cabin, the hill and Cumberland Shelf framing Valentine from that angle. But what i do know is, we have a pretty good understanding of how the heartlands looks and flows from one end to the other. Feels like all the jigsaw pieces have come together for that part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreeFitty 2631 Report post Posted September 10, 2018 Don't forget about this shot from the first trailer: It should be in the same area. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 12, 2018 Update v0.68 *Adjusted some rock formation placements *Added some new Landmarks *Created some topographical depth around the Dakota River based on visual evidence. * Added TreeFitty's latest Valentine map update. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 17, 2018 Fitty, i got some work for you... The Town names have a strip of map behind them! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreeFitty 2631 Report post Posted September 17, 2018 Looking at Rhodes, I didn't do too bad. An extra building (doctor office) next to the jail and a better look at the mill. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 17, 2018 Doh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreeFitty 2631 Report post Posted September 17, 2018 Looking back at the leaked map, we got all the green locations except Van Horn (as far as the new areas). Strange. edit: ^lol I got those anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 17, 2018 I was just thinking the exact same thing. No surprise here, just orientating myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreeFitty 2631 Report post Posted September 17, 2018 I think Strawberry and the mountain are the only "ah-ha!" spots. We kind of knew where the swamp was. The others we already figured out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViceMan 1380 Report post Posted September 17, 2018 Yeah Strawberry is bigger than I expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreeFitty 2631 Report post Posted September 17, 2018 Updated Rhodes and Valentine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 17, 2018 On 9/2/2018 at 1:30 PM, ViceMan said: I think the camera guy shot is on the same plateau as the horse rearing up. You can see the very edge of that rock on his right, plus the top of the bigger finger rock. It's funny how these seemingly obvious rock shapes don't appear in a lot of the other shots, kinda like these two beauties that I looked at before. They are quite clearly in the mountain range behind Valentine somewhere, but in a lot of the shots looking that way they don't seem to be there, either obscured by cloud or the wrong angle I guess . I called them QD's Mounds before, but I think Toblerone might be a more fitting and universally recognisable name. I'm actually doubting myself now as to whether these are the same rocks. I was certain of it before, but now not so sure. The frozen settlement is looking like it's Adler Ranch. This shootout looking place is probably Colter Camp, where they hold up for the winter in the opening scenes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViceMan 1380 Report post Posted September 17, 2018 Yeah I assumed they were the Toblerone peaks, still hard seeing them from different angles though. To think in a year's time i'll know the map layout and every landmark like the back of my hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 18, 2018 Now i see where it is on the landscape, i think it's the same mountain peaks i named two tacos in the first trailer. They seem to have changed a lot since then though, as has many other rocks gone through a fidelity pass since then. But it sits in the exact same place as those two tacos. I'm not sure if Hagen is the mountain he's riding the horse on or the dominant peak behind it... I think Mt. Hagen is more fitting for the bigger background mountain, so i'm calling that Hagen. Decided to go back into more detail with "The Grizzlies (Intro)" as a whole. I definitely feel like there's some changes int he mountain structures from the first trailer. That's why we had such a hard time mapping the "intro" when we got back into it with the 4k Trailer. Everything looked upgraded, down to the rocks in the Heartlands. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 5361 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 Someone on Reddit named CandyKillerArt created a slick updated version of the Saint Denis map based on the website style. Pretty clean, i like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViceMan 1380 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 Yeah like I said before I think it's not wise to use the first trailer for reference since so much has changed, especially the mountain profiles. It's going to be weird riding around Saint Denis, it's about three times bigger than Blackwater, and a lot more vertical too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites